The suggested Matthew Katz magazine cover

Graphic by Greg Volpert

The Tribute page

These are various comments and reviews posted by folks after
the release in early June 2002 of the second Moby Grape tribute project.
             -----------reviews and comments--------------

    From: "David Roby" 
 Subject: long lost MG tribute track...

 Hi folks,
 A while back my band did some Moby Grape covers for possible
 inclusion in the tribute CD that was put together here a while ago.
 We didn't quite have the technology at the time, but I've finally
 converted one of the tracks into MP3's "Seeing"/"Skip's
 Song", an instrumental version, somewhat sped up...anyway, you may
 enjoy it.  The Band's name is Together Market. Find it on the following

[ Seeing ]

   From: "David Biasotti" 
Subject: thanks to Bill & Paul

I'd just like to join in the chorus of gratitude Bill & Paul so richly
deserve. Thanks for doing this. It means a lot to a lot of us.

Subject: Re: HUZZAH!

Bill, I want to thank you personally for putting your heart into this
project for all us listers. It was quite the Herculean feat.


 The year is 2027; Bill has started pre-production on
"Mo'Grape, Vol. 14: A Tribute To The Studio Chatter"
   From: "alintoronto" 
Subject: Re: Surrender The Boppa ....

Producers in general would be beside themselves with glee if every
song they ever worked on went "boppa boppa boppa..." from start to
finish. In producer lingo "boppa" translates as "hit single." They say
things to engineers like; "Dwayne, gimme a little more boppa on
Celine's bottom end. Li'l more... li'l more...good, hold it there!"
Producers are especially hard on drummers when it comes to
"surrendering the Boppa," (another producer catchphrase) since in
their heart of hearts they know that the drummer is the true real
estate agent of the band (sorry Don.) Drummers sell records: it works
like this... drums go fast = people dance = people buy record = big
money all 'round. Boppa Boppa Boppa... just imagine:

Producer: Nah, ya gotta play that boppa-boppa thing right from the
start man. It drives like a mother****er!

Drummer: Sorry? Isn't this the session for Bridge Under Troubled Water?

Producer: Yeah! C'mon, gimme the damn Boppas! Pour it on kid! Boppa
Boppa Boppa...

Drummer: Er... maybe Paul and Art would rather have me...

Producer: Introduction SHIT man! Boppa boppa boppa!!!

Drummer; Hey... how come you set my kit up in the bottom of an
elevator shaft?

Producer: Surrender the Boppa! Surrender the Boppa!

(Whew... the music biz is harsh, ain't it?)

"Imagine there's no heaven (boppa boppa boppa boppa!)
 it's easy if you try (boppa boppa boppa boppa!)"

   From: "alintoronto" 
Subject: Re: thanks
Thanks to Greg too. What you guys did... whooee!

Message: 12
   Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 01:20:29 -0000
   From: "arbed_drannek" 
Subject: I got my music...

YEE-HAAA!!!! I got my music and it is great!!!!!! I love it. All of
you fans that contributed to this thanks!!!! Now I must go to listen
to some more music.

   From: "wvtroutguy" 

Fantastic Job Paul!  The Web Page for the Even Mo' Grape makes the
anticipation for this music even greater!  The page for the MP3 Moby
Grape music is a fitting tribute to this mammoth project...and also
much thanks for keeping the original Mo' Grape page active.
-Dave Haines

   Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 06:18:19 -0700 (PDT)
   From: peter schindelman 
Subject: Re: Even Mo' Grape

I just pulled mine from the mailbox -- thanks again,
Bill (most efficient packer in the midwest)and
everyone else who contributed to this massive effort!

Peter Schindelman
   From: "Greg Mosner" 
Subject: Even Mo Grape: Even Better Than Expected

Like the second MG album; WOW.... is this Even Mo Grape fantastic!!!
Such great versions of the songs that I can't stop listening to it.  It just goes
to show that Moby Grape's talent in songwriting and performing really touches
some of the best musicians.  You guys and gals did a great job and have really
inspired me keep spreading the 'Good News' of Moby Grape throughout  the land.

The Moby Grape sure has some dynamite guitar players and singers for fans
I must say.

Thanks again to Bill and Paul for all the effort, it is sure appreciated.

Greg M. in St. Paul MN
   Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 16:13:36 -0000
   From: "kamoo90066" 
Subject: Mo Thanks Bill

Thanks for such a fine job compiling these great disks. These tributes
are great. It's cool to see so many fans with talent truly show their
appreciation of the music. It's a unique situation and great to be a
part of it. As equally as mind blowing is the complete grape. I'm still
searching around the disks, but for someone who has only heard the
Grape live on Dark Magic and Live Grape this has been totally
inspiring...thanks again to every one involved great job!

   Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:16:01 -0700
   From: Connie Mosley 
Subject: EMG

We played the EMG over the weekend and it is just fantastic! Such a
talented group of people!I love the cd artwork Greg did. Very nice.

take care,
Subject: Mo' Grape 2

Got mine today.  Just finished listening to the whole thing.  Great job,
everybody.  I am proud to share space on them there shiny things with all of

Mike F.
   Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 03:42:45 EDT
Subject: Re: "Punk"

Ahh...another mystery solved.  Adolph Feiss...uhmm.

I received my copy of "Even Mo' Grape" in today's mail and what a wonderful
gift it is.   Kudos to Bill Morse and everyone who contributed to the
project.  What a great overview of the the output of the best of all of the
groups to emerge from the Bay Area--and the lasting influence the Grape had
on those of us who love music.  (...And to those of us who continue to  play
their music on guitars, cd players and computers...)  I'm going to cherish
these disks for a long time.
   Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 09:17:44 -0000
   From: "wvtroutguy" 
Subject: "Even Mo' Great, er Grape!"

Well, mine arrived on Monday and it was a most welcome addition to my
Father's Day music presents.  The collection is really great and a
most fitting tribute to our MG!  I can't begin to express the feeling
I had while cruising down the road this evening hearing (for example)
a wonderful cover of "Bitter Wind."  Knowing that this song has
imparted the praise and reactions of other fans out there did indeed
bring a smile to my face. (This being my own reaction, as I've
mentiond before, regarding my feeling over the years of being
a "somewhat private and lone" Moby Grape fan).

I'm so glad that the words and music of Moby Grape have not gone
unnoticed.  Nice work to all who were involved in this
 Dave Haines
   Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 02:27:18 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Timothy Nunn 
Subject: Even Mo Grape

Just got mine today, that's quite a package.  Thanks
to all the players and Bill, Cody,
Greg...etc...etc...Truely the best $5.00 I spent all
year!  I'm gonna practice my Les Paul like mad so I
can contribute to Son Of Even Mo Grape!

Subject: Re: Digest Number 1274

Got mine in the mail yesterday & it is Even Mo better than the 1st
have not listened all the way thru yet but love John Butler version of Hey
Granma, I did a 16 hour shift yesterday & spent a lot of time driving in my
truck, & I listened to a lot of the MP3 stuff of the complete Moby Grape & I
never heard the Peter Lewis stuff before but man was I impressed that shit is
the real deal, he writes some great songs with a strong voice, it just blew
me away, so I must really give a big HOWDY DUTY! to Bill for making this all
possible,man you must have put a lot of work into this. Can not wait to
hear some more MO GRAPE & some more complete Grape, Thanks again

                           Greg the Jersey Gypsy

   Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:50:15 -0400
   From: "Frank Carmack" 
Subject: Mo Grape

Wonderful set of music there guys !

Thanks so much to everyone involved. It's a treasure.

Freeman Carmack
   Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:51:40 EDT
Subject: Bill's Masterpiece

... has arrived in England.

Thanks, Bill.

John K
   From: "jblwolf" 
Subject: Even Mo'

  Just got mine. Whew! I can't say enough about about the effort Bill
Morse and company
have put into this. It could've been a lot of things but it
couldn't have been any cooler! I'm proud to have been allowed to
in a small way to this massive labor of love. Thanks, guys!

Julius Belenski.
   Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:45:26 -0700 (PDT)
   From: aaron catalano 
Subject: Re: Bill's Masterpiece

   WOW!!!!  Thanks Bill X 10 to the one billionith.
And thanks to Jerry, Bob, Peter, Skip and Don for
continuing to make music all these years.  And Hurray
for the internet!
   Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 22:00:12 -0000
   From: "haarp_recording_007" 
Subject: Just Say Mo'(!).

I've been listening to this great tribute set since friday night,
taking in most of it from saturday on to today. It's an impressive
collective effort, for sure, right up there with "More Oar" & way
better than many commercial tributes (of other things) I've heard.
I'm glad to have been a part of it (that includes my bandmates!).
It's a real treat to hear all the very diverse styles of the players
& interpretations of the tunes covered. I've already got ideas for
the future project, so I'll just *have to say Mo'* to further Grape

Best regards,
   Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:35:46 -0500
   From: "Bob Van Voorhis" 
Subject: Re: Just Say Mo'(!), food for future thought..

Some tunes yet uncovered (except the non-tribute ones on Mike F's MG album.
I think we have another tribute or 3 in us... :)

Come In The Morning
The Place And The Time
Can't Be So Bad
Just Like Gene Autry
Miller's Blues
Ooh Mama Ooh
Sweet Ride
You Can Do Anything
If You Can't Lean From Your Mistakes
Captain Nemo
Truly Fine Citizen
Beautiful Is Beautiful
Love Song
Open Up Your Heart
Now I Know High
Treat Me Bad
I'm The Kind Of Man Baby You Can Trust
About Time
Going Down To Texas
Roundhouse Blues
Ode To the Man At The End Of The Bar
Wild Oats Moan
That Lost Horizon
Here I Sit
Must Be Goin' now Dear
Your Rider
Up In the Air
Love You so Much
You Got Everything I Need

plus, most of the solo and post 70's albums remain largely untouched
Message: 18
   Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:40:33 -0400
   From: steve 
Subject: Even Mo Grape

i got my copy of this great package yesterday and wanted to thank
you Bill and everyone else involved!!

i'm back to listening to the mp3's again.  so many wonderful memories!!
thanks again,

   Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 21:26:14 EDT
Subject: Re: Still Even Mo Betta Grape

I had to take off the headphones, this is so intense!

It sure is great to hear this music **outside** of my head for a change!

Greg V
   Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:47:35 -0000
   From: "alintoronto" 
Subject: Re: Bill's Masterpiece

Yeah, the fur traders picked up my copy at the Hudson's Bay post and
portaged it down-river to the nearest fishing station, where a kindly
old postmaster strapped it to the back of a pack mule and sent it down
the ravine until... IT'S HERE! IN CANADA! Today! Yes, it arrived
today... the same day I heard on this list the great news about Moby
Grape's victory over whats-his-name, y'know... Darth Vader. Man! This
day will be remembered for a long time. The tribute is amazing,
beautiful stuff. Bill, I love your version of "Murder," just stunning.
Adolph Feiss... you should stage a hostile takeover of The Prairie
Home Companion, Garrison Keillor can make your coffee or somethin'.
Everybody rocks on this. Beautiful job.

Cheers to all,
   Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 22:10:53 -0500
   From: "Bob Van Voorhis" 

Subject: Reactions to EMG...

Burned a few so far for some of my friends, some of whom have no idea who
the Grape are. Their responses have been quite favorable, By and large,  a
lot of them like the folk/country vein some of the tunes were done in.
   Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 22:10:53 -0500
   From: "Bob Van Voorhis" 

A big thank you to Debra Kennard, for
initiating and hosting the Jerry Miller chats from Chateau Drannek,
which all involved enjoy immensely, and have given us a unique quality
that most other fan lists can't even begin to compare to.

   Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:05:23 EDT
Subject: Re: Speculations on afterlife

greg volpert sez:

 I always picture Skip up there disassembling / reassembling Duke
Ellington's, George Gershwin's, and Bach's arrangements...while Lennon,
Hendrix, and Garcia just shake their heads in awe...

Nah.  I picture him removing all the screws and fasteners from Duke's piano
before the Big Recital.  Duke hits the first chord of "Take the A-Train" and
the whole piano falls apart.  Out of nowhere, the actual A-Train comes
roaring through...with Skip blowing the horn and waving, wearing a big
stripey Conductor's Cap.  Nobody gets angry, they all just shake their heads
and smile.  Gershwin lifts up the sound-board of the piano and suddenly
here's Harpo Marx, who plays "My Best Friend" on the remnants, as though they
were a harp, and then squeezes Jimi's nose, which beeps.  Skip re-appears and
says "Hot chords, hot chords."

Mike F.
   Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:49:18 -0500
   From: "Bob Van Voorhis" 
Subject: Post legal blues toons...

In the spirit of the week, and to summarize the past 35 years, I give you:

"Mayhem In Our Hearts For The Sludge" (Miller/Stevenson/Feiss)

We got mayhem in our hearts for the sludge
We got mayhem in our hearts for the sludge
That old sludge caused a grudge
We got mayhem in our hearts for the sludge

Walked into your office
where you hope to bring us down
when the big, old, bloodsucking mangy manager
with his contracts, came around

"We're sorry, we're sorry we ever deigned to sign
and we're sure we'll have to pay"
The sludge looked down at us and said,
"For giving in, boys
I'll own your ass for more than a lifetime"

(Repeat chorus)

Then we said, "If we worked like you
We would have no friends
We'll get back our money
We'll make you do time
And we won't have to see your ugly face again!"

(Repeat Chorus)

   Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 01:35:37 -0000
   From: "alintoronto" 
Subject: Re: Post legal blues toons...

Bob, I think you've just pointed us in the direction of the next
tribute project. Maybe we can convince the Lovin' Spoonfull to rewrite
one of their classics for the occasion... allright John, break out
your, two, one-two-three...
(John Sebastian sings:)
"Math-yew Katz
 He'll lead you to the slaughter,
 Math-yew Katz
 He'll rob you off your due,
 Math-yew Katz
 Steal candy from a baby,
 Math-yew Katz...
 He'll do time before he's through.

 Well there's 13,350 pocket-pickers in Nashville,
 and they can pick more pockets than the number of ants on the..."

   Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 23:05:43 -0500
   From: "Bob Van Voorhis" 
Subject: EMG, track by track review

Dirty Harry- who is that loon?

Murder...-the perfect song to follow that intro, and a lot of influences
worn on its sleeve. Great arrangement, Stills needs to hear this...

On The Dime- love the feel on this tune, just manic enough..

I Picked A Rose-perfect arrangement for this, great delivery

Hey Grandma-a list favorite cover, and another strong version

8:05-the other list favorite, and nice acoustic arrangement, faithful to the

Bitter Wind-Wowie! nuff said...

Arthur intro...into Funky-Tunk-another good call by Bill on sequencing, and
I love the goofy vocals on this song, and the pickin' can't be beat..

Going Nowhere-very nice take on this tune, mirroring, but not exactly, the
Grape version

Rose Colored Eyes-Mike said he may have overdone the backwards guitar on
this and Dark Magic, i say nah, it fits the song, and the rap is sooo

Sitting By the Window-this could have been one of Mike's covers, and that's
a compliment..

Horse In The Rain-one of Peter's more unique tunes, and a deft job of
capturing its spirit

Right Before My Eyes-why don't we see more Italian rockers? this is just
plain fine...

Truckin' Man-fabulous arrangement for a song that was a flat out rocker done
by MG

Hoochie- as much as I love the live studio take on '69, this is a most
successful cover on its own merits...

Bitter Wind-captures the haunting quality of the song, love the second vocal
that comes from another plane...

What's To Choose-I think I like this better than the Grape version; no

Changes, Circles Spinning-somebody should be covering tunes like this on
country radio, maybe it wouldn't suck as bad if they did, and this cover
would be a good radio tune...

78 RPM..into Motorcycle Irene-if Zimmy mind-melded with Loudon Wainwright,
and decided to cover Skippy, this is maybe how it would be...

Dark Magic-sublime psychedelia, the most Airplane-like of the Grape tunes..

Hey Grandma-these guys could fill their own tribute album....

Where Do The Birds Go-Sly meets the Grape, gotta love it!

On the Dime-Mose Allison & Paul Butterfield split a fifth and a doobie and
this is what happens...

Cough Syrup-proof positive that we need a new Mose solo album, if he has
stuff like this in the stash, good rocking arrangement...

Bitter Wind-everyone has done something unique with this tune, and the
subtle raga feel on this version adds another dimension

Three-Four-this one threw me, as I think gospel, and then I hear folk, for
this tune..upon re-evaluating, I think they chose well...

It's A Beautiful Day- Like Billie's "Queen Of The Crow" on Mo'Grape, every
time the ladies get ahold of a Grape tune, great things happen

Dark Magic-this one will throw you into another dimension if you let it..
   From: "wvtroutguy" 
Subject: "I Picked A Rose" and Wild WV Trout...

"I Picked A Rose" is a KILLER!  Nashville should have this song (if
all things were just and equal).
I turned a good friend of mine on to Even Mo' Grape on Saturday as we
drove together for a day on the trout stream.  Bud (the friend in
question) really flipped for your version of the Mosley tune); in
fact, we both flipped together!

The drive really gave me the opportunity to concentrate on Even Mo'
Grape.  We both loved the entire package.  What a great tribute to
the Moby Grape that I have loved all of these years!
I can't begin to explain the feelings and enjoyment we had driving
with the juxtaposition of beautiful scenery and music.  Bud got "I
Picked..." stuck in his head and sang it while flailing away the
afternoon for the wild trout.

After we finished our quest for the native brookies, we sat back
beside the stream for a couple of cold ones (with Even Mo' playing
from the open hatch of his Explorer).  ...wooded splendor, babbling
brook, soothing long necks, talk of quest, success, and trout, Even'
Mo Grape permeating and encompassing this atmosphere of splendor...
(get the picture)?
Thanks for sharing this one with us!  "I Picked A Rose" is one that
could have gotten away had it not been for you.  So many thanks to
Larry Hosford and Bob Mosley!

Dave Haines
   Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 02:37:24 EDT
Subject: Re: "I Picked A Rose" and Wild WV Trout...

  "I picked with Mose..." Thank you, Dave, that was a nice letter, sure. I
agree it's good to be able to spread the tune around, 'specially to those who
can most appreciate it. Bob has a bagful of those little bucolic gems,
another of which, "I Am A Dreamer", I've been singing for years. Maybe we can
get it down and pass it around for Mo G III. It should certainly go well

  These trib CDs are a gas. I figure we are All Stars, but I am still giving
my slick whistle award to Mingus Monk's "Naked If I Want To" on Mo G I. Damn!
That elevator bellist was a Mo-Fo.

Mo Lo
   Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:36:24 EDT
Subject: Re: "I Picked A Rose" and Wild WV Trout...

I Picked a Rose is an amazing Song...

When I first heard it I thought it was a hit that I heard somewhere else, and
I started asking people...who covered this song...???

Thats how good it is!!!!

   Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 09:59:33 EDT

Keep listening to my "Even Mo Grape" & each time I seem to find another gem,
this really turned in to one really great tribute CD, better than a lot of
the ones I've purchased by so called professional record companies &
professional bands, again thanks to all who put all the work into this, can't
wait for tribute #3. Also my Peter Lewis CD should be arriving any day from
Taxim, another Gem I found due to this project
                         Greg H
From: Fred Krc 
Date: Sun,  7 Jul 2002 17:17:38 -0500

GRAPE A LICIOUS !! Cool covers rendered with love and respect. Freddie
Steady Krc of the Shakin' Apostles

That's amazing all the work that went into this...Somebody out there deserves
a lifetime miracle ticket.

   From: Timothy Nunn 
Subject: Even Mo Grape

Hooray,, let's all hear a cheer for Mr Morse for his
dedicated service to all the GrapeHeads out there
waiting for these discs.  That was a lot of work,
Bill, I know and we all appreciate the time and effort
y9ou put into this project... You, sir, are a Truely
Fine Citizen!

   Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 14:42:10 -0400
   From: "Frank Carmack" 
Subject: "Moby Grape, they're so great, I can't describe"

So THAT's the REAL lyric in the Strawberry Alarm Clock Song.

Just wanted to send an "official" thanks to everyone who
participated in making this wonderful tribute to
America's best band.

The love, power and creativity comes through powerfully on each
track. It gladdens me to know that Bob appreciates it.

I feel giddy!

Thanks Bill and everyone for a wonderous musical experience.

Freeman Carmack
   Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 12:34:30 -0700
   From: "Chris Robertson" 
Subject: Even Mo

Howdy All

I just received my Even Mo.
I have listened to it several times. Incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It takes me to the time when these kind of songs were first around. Before the man
took over and now we have RAP/HIPHOP etc.
When musicians were free to explore and produce music to their own liking and feelings.
Some may call it art.
It show's me that there are still folks out there who have taken the formula and kept it alive.
I was beginning to think I was alone on that note.

I made a statement when the first tribute cd came out that "it put my dick in the dirt"
Well I have to say that the new Even Mo produced the same results.

I love how Bitter Wind is repeated through out the music by different folks.

Thanks To All Who Participated!!!

   Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:35:42 EDT
Subject: Re: Grape Escape writes:

<< "With all of this talk about Grape Escape, let me point out that the
entire Grape Escape CD is on Disk Two of The Complete Moby Grape.

A word about those MP3's...outstanding would be that word! Added a bunch of
tunes I'd never heard before and now enjoy discovering for the first time...
    What he said! In addition to tracks I'd been eager-bordering-on-anxious
to hear and was afraid I'd never get to. What a monumental effort!

    As my Uncle Hugh said when he was acquitted -- WOW!

    Greg V

Message: 11
   Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 00:26:34 EDT
Subject: too cool

Got my copy today and while I'm totally tied up with other heavy duty apps on
the computer, I did manage to get through half of disc one of Even Mo Grape.

That's some darned good stuff there.. I keep forgetting how much talent there
is on this list. Opening track, Adolph Feiss, "punk"---Magnum
Force-1973-Eastwwod-[ Dirty Harry series 3 of 3] opening segment- a
perpetual San Francisco classic movie.

So far, Larry Hosford stood out as the best recording technique, encompassing
evenly the better part of the sound spectrum.

But some of this is wild stuff. Totally hilarious. My guess is that some
of the originals would hear this stuff, and be totally fascinated by these
interpretations, as I am, and apparently everyone else is...

Thinking of that, I keep getting an artwork/album cover in my mind. It's sort
of a composite of the old 70's TV clips of Jail House Rock and Wizard Of Oz.

The scene in the Wizard Of Oz where the house falls on the wicked witch of
the east, and shows only her feet disappearing under the house, and the
Jailhouse Rock, wich shows a massive (cartoon depiction) of a huge carved
out rock, like Mount Rushmore, South Dakota.

This massive rock scene, titled "Moby Grape", landing on an abritrary scene,
except there's some tiny feet sticking out from underneath the landing
point...squished beyond recognition....Those feet would be Katz

I'm sure somebody here would guess this scene, and come up with some artwork

Subject: Dark Magic

Finally got to listen to the whole Even Mo Grape and my two favorities are
both versions of Dark Magic.

Mike Fornatale's version I think was technically the best. Or maybe truest to
a particular version that the Grape did. Nice guitar work on that.

But it was Brian Vaughan's version that got me the visuals. Lots of cool
swirling colors on that one. That sounds more like what Skippy would be doing
these days. Almost frightening to have heard a Skip song that's even trippier
than this song. And there's a couple out there. Too much for even the X



Graphic by Greg Volpert